US - Market Direction 01 (May 08 - Jul 08)

Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:36 pm

hi everyone : it's 530pm singapore.... and to borrow the words of a cnbc journalist

"Do you know where your money is?" ;)

and we return back to market conditions... i begin with this saying

"when that intended move does not develop and if the charts begin to change and the price begins to move thru the stop, then it is showing the "facts are changing". If the facts change then we must change with them"

and here, an afternoon tea reading...
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One of the most costly mistakes most, if not all, traders make is when a conclusion is formed that a particular stock or index just has to make a move in a specific direction. A position based on that conclusion and initially it starts to go well. But the situation changes and like that proverbial "deer in the headlights" the trader just stares in disbelief as the price goes the "wrong way".

I've constantly read that women make better traders because they can change their minds so quickly. And when it comes to trading, this is a good thing to be able to do!

I have learned some the hard way, that it just is not worth it to be inflexible and deny that the price is going against you. Yes, I know it is so easy to say "it is only just a little bit against me, perhaps it will come back and go my way." And there will be a few occasions when that hope will prevail and the position is "saved".

But I have seen so many occasions when that "little bit" that the price has gone against a position turns into "just a little more", and before too long all of those "little bits" become "a lot", and it winds up being a huge loss. Those few times that a position gets "saved" is just enough to keep hope alive, and it won't take long until this causes the person that won't set or honor stops to lose all of their money.

The markets are fluid and sometimes they will change very suddenly. Watching the price movements can help in showing that the conditions were changing, and that we needed to change our outlook and perspective to accommodate the changing conditions.

It is possible that yesterday's sudden move could fall apart and collapse, and if it does, then it would put us back into the potential for a downward move. But with the changes we have on the daily charts (and a few of the weekly charts) the prospects of that happening appear to be growing slim.

There is overhead resistance, and this upward move may not be the best, but at this time, we have a very significant change in the charts and the conditions are showing the potential for the price to move high. The downward move may not have worked out as we expected, but by following the indications of these charts we are in the early stages of this change in direction, and this puts us ahead of the majority of traders that will wind up chasing after the price after a good part of the move has already taken place.
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby millionairemind » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:12 pm

kennynah wrote:There is overhead resistance, and this upward move may not be the best, but at this time, we have a very significant change in the charts and the conditions are showing the potential for the price to move high. The downward move may not have worked out as we expected, but by following the indications of these charts we are in the early stages of this change in direction, and this puts us ahead of the majority of traders that will wind up chasing after the price after a good part of the move has already taken place.*****************


K - I have highlighted what I particularly liked about your post above..(everything is good.. the bold one's the best :mrgreen: )

Let's see how this plays out... Trend changes are darn difficult to change... and they harm investors and traders alike the most when the trend suddenly changes...without warning

I flipped back to LONGs...

We all have to watch out for the NYSE short interest ratio.. that really scares the hell out of me.. :)

Having said that... if mkt wants to go back down again.. you will know which side of the market I will be on... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:16 pm

hi all... i share with you a mystery...(one that cif5000) also experienced...

it's the mystery of "bolding words of my post"

eh....i remember vividly i didnt bold any words in the passage within the ********

but now that i look at it again....some sentences have been bolded...

hahaha.... phantom of the forum ....lurking....lurking...somewhere.... :lol:



dear MM : best of luck to your new positions....huat ah !!!
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby winston » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:23 pm

kennynah wrote:hi all... i share with you a mystery...(one that cif5000) also experienced...

it's the mystery of "bolding words of my post"

eh....i remember vividly i didnt bold any words in the passage within the ********


Hi k, this was my reply top cif5000 in his Charles Munger thread:-

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Hi cif5000,

I've been editing some of the posts in the forum as I read them.

Sometimes, I bold them. Sometimes, I put in some paragraphs. Sometimes, I edit the spacings. Sometimes, I correct the spellings.

I do the above so that the next reader would find it easier to read the articles, especially the longer articles :)

Take care,
Winston

P/S If the sections that I bold are not the right section to bold, please do let me know and I will unbold them.
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:38 pm

w : thanks for reading my post and bolding some of the sentences... i am assured that it is you and not some "unkown" forces... but in case, u do edit...perhaps you could ((add in some remarks on what u did))... else, i get worried...spooky..hahaha...
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:37 pm

and before the bell this last trading day of this week...how time flies ...

i offer a reminder to all of us (including myself)...

"you should fear when you hope and hope when you should fear"...

translated..and in particular, in nano-term trades, it means, if one has Short positions or its equivalent, it is now not a time to hope, but fear that one's such positions can go further into the red, if market continue its upward trend tonight....

i assume all of us here, read plentiful on investment/trading. however, reading and putting into practice are 2 very different affairs. i constantly remind myself, when i lose $ to the market, that each dollar paid out has to reap some returns; in those cases, i regard these losses as ongoing tuition fees :cry:

the fact is that only when we learn how to take our losses well, then can we learn how to profit successully.

good luck all....

DOW futures is flat at this hour (730pm sgp time)
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby millionairemind » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:15 pm

millionairemind wrote:US uptrend resumes with all three indices scoring huge gains...Nasdaq was up 1.9%

That being said, do look out for major distribution day within a week of follow thro'... if that happens, it will kill off this rally in double quick time.

Also note that the NYSE short ratio edged even higher after last night's action at 14.36. This is still a major concern (at least for me)
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K - Looks like I spoke too early... The darn spike in oil and unemployment data is scaring the hell out of the mkt..

Looks like we going to have a major distribution day RIGHT after follow thro' :cry: :cry:

Sigh....this year's mkt super volatile.. When the going gets tough.. the tough must get going...

Maybe the fengshui master is correct... June is VOLATILE MONTH... but hey, wait a minute... he also said that July will see possible Financial epidemic... better get my shorts ready (and bermudas too.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )

Wake up and see how the mkt closes.. Nothing I can do about it now. :D
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:19 pm

MM.... sigh... such is how treacherous the markets are... :oops:

we need to watch the p/v movement intraday and see the close to form the microterm direction....today's DOW drop...is now totally engulfing yesterday's shave white candle...hmmm...at this juncture...it is all too early to say...

let's see...
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby kennynah » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:52 am

Fri 6jun08 Session Analysis
7jun08 - 540am +8 gmt

it's a saturday by the time you read this.... and i was considering whether to post only on monday morning.... but i decided that it is better we spend some weekend time reflecting on how the major US indexes ended ...
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DOW >>> -ve 394
SP500 >> -ve 43
Naz >> -ve 75


besides the 3 major indexes charts, i intentionally attach the 15mins Intraday Chart(right at the bottom), for the purpose of showing how the market actually ticked on Fri.... and hopefully, you get a sense of mood....all 3 indexes intraday movements are similar

SP500 >> many new developments (( Volume Higher ))
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DOW >> Intensive Care Unit ... no kidding !!! ((Volume Markedly Higher ))
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Nazdaq >> I Duno what to call it now ???? (( Volume modestly Lower ))
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SP500 >> 15 Mins Charts (( Oh, Please..... hand it the Charcoal tablets !!! ))
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nothing drops to a floor, without a bounce, unless it is mucus....
nothing soars to the sky, without dropping back to earth...unless it is superman...


these charts above are dissected, and to be reviewed for swing/momentum to a maximum of mid-term trading... they are inappropriate for position (aka Long Term) trades...

let's all bask in some family and friendship warmth this weekend...clear our minds, and prepare ourselves again for battle next week....

i wish you a great weekend !!! enjoy !!!
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Re: US - Market Direction

Postby helios » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:51 am

Ken: many thanks for e chart.
noticed u add on another dimension of fibonacci support for DJ.

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