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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby kennynah » Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:46 pm

fred and fannie will be around for some time to come...they are the equivalent of our stat boards...govt is bound to bail them out. they serve many roles in and are vital to the financial ecosystem. if any of them is gone, it will soon be replaced.

buying any of them is actually buying into a portion of US Treasury dept... when the US economy recovers, they may be the first to gate bang
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby purplecloud » Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Got hope liao .....

11 Jul 2008 12:50 CST DJ MARKET TALK: STI +1.1% On NY Times Bailout Report; 2950 Cap

0450 GMT [Dow Jones] STI turns higher on New York Times report that Bush administration evaluating plan that could see U.S. government take over Fannie Mae (FNM), Freddie Mac (FRE) or both.
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Postby ishak » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:00 pm

International Herald Tribune
By Stephen Labaton and Steven R. Weisman
Friday, July 11, 2008

Shares of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the beleaguered mortgage finance companies, plummeted again on Friday morning, as senior Bush administration officials consider a plan to have the government take over one or both of the companies and place them in a conservatorship if their problems worsen, according to people briefed about the plan.

Fannie Mae stock was down 36 percent in early trading compared with Thursday's closing price; Freddie Mac stock was down 41 percent.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been hit hard by the mortgage foreclosure crisis. Their shares are plummeting and their borrowing costs are rising as investors worry that the companies will suffer losses far larger than the $11 billion they have already lost in recent months. Now, as housing prices decline further and foreclosures grow, the markets are worried that Fannie and Freddie themselves may default on their debt.

Under a conservatorship, the shares of Fannie and Freddie would be worth little or nothing, and any losses on mortgages they own or guarantee - which could be staggering - would be paid by taxpayers.

The government officials said that the administration had also considered calling for legislation that would offer an explicit government guarantee on the $5 trillion of debt owned or guaranteed by the companies. But that is a far less attractive option, they said, because it would effectively double the size of the public debt.

The officials also said that such a step would be ineffective because the markets already widely accept that the government stands behind the companies.

The officials involved in the discussions stressed that no action by the administration was imminent, and that Fannie and Freddie are not considered to be in a crisis situation. But in recent days, enough concern has built among senior government officials over the health of the giant mortgage finance companies for them to hold a series of meetings and conference calls to discuss contingency plans.

A conservatorship or other rescue operation would be the second time in four months that the Bush administration has stepped in to engineer a rescue to prevent the financial system from collapsing. Last March, it forced the sale of Bear Stearns to JPMorgan Chase to avert a bankruptcy of that venerable investment house.

Officials have also been concerned that the difficulties of the two companies, if not fixed, could damage economies worldwide. The securities of Fannie and Freddie are held by numerous overseas financial institutions, central banks and investors.

Under a 1992 law, Fannie or Freddie could be put into conservatorship if their top regulator found that either one is "critically undercapitalized." A conservator would have sweeping powers to overhaul them, but would not have the authority to close them.

The markets showed fresh signs on Thursday of being nervous about the future of the companies. Their stock prices continued a weeklong slide, hitting their lowest level in 17 years. The debt markets, meanwhile, pushed up the two companies' cost of borrowing - their lifeblood for buying mortgages.

The companies are by far the biggest providers of financing for domestic home loans. If they are unable to borrow, they will not be able to buy mortgages from commercial lenders. In turn, that would make it more expensive and difficult, if not impossible, for home buyers to obtain credit, freezing the United States housing market. Even healthy banks are reluctant to tie up scarce capital by offering mortgages to low-risk home buyers without Fannie and Freddie taking the loans off their books.

Together the two companies touch more than half of the nation's $12 trillion in mortgages by either owning them or backing them. They hold more than $1.5 trillion of the mortgages as securities. Others are sold to investors in the form of mortgage-backed bonds.

In recent weeks, the companies have spiraled downward, undermined by declining confidence in their future and shaken by sharp declines in their assets as the housing markets have continued to slide and foreclosures have risen.

In the last week alone, Freddie has lost 45 percent of its value, and Fannie is off 30 percent. Expectations of default at the companies have also risen; it costs three times as much today to buy insurance on a two-year Fannie bond as it did three years ago.

Analysts expect the companies to announce a new round of write-downs and possibly be forced to raise capital by issuing additional shares, which would dilute their value for current shareholders.

Despite repeated assurances from regulators about the financial soundness of the two institutions, financial markets have concluded that by some measures they are deeply troubled.

Freddie, for instance, is technically insolvent under fair value accounting rules, in which the company puts a market value on assets as if it had to sell them now.

Although Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Jr. and Ben Bernanke, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, passed up invitations by lawmakers on Thursday to seek legislation to deal with the crisis, officials said that the administration had been privately considering a government takeover should the markets continue to turn against the companies.

At a hearing of the House Financial Services Committee on Thursday, both Paulson and Bernanke were guarded, carefully trying not to say anything that could further erode confidence in Fannie and Freddie. They both said that the regulator of Fannie and Freddie had found that they were, in the words of Paulson, "adequately capitalized," meaning that they had sufficient cash and other assets to withstand the turbulence in the markets.

"Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are also working through this challenging period," Paulson said.

Neither official would address a question posed by Representative Dennis Moore, Democrat of Kansas, who asked whether the failure of either institution would pose a risk to the financial system.

"In today's world I don't think it is helpful to speculate about any financial institution and systemic risk," Mr. Paulson said. "I'm dealing with the here and now, and the important role that they're playing and other financial institutions are playing."

Bernanke said that Fannie and Freddie "are well-capitalized in the regulatory sense" but added that they, and other major financial institutions, needed to raise their capital levels further.

Despite repeated denials by officials in the Bush and prior administrations, financial markets have long assumed the government would stand behind Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in times of difficulty, both because they are integral to the housing and financial markets and because the companies have a line of credit to the Treasury.

But Congress set that credit more than 38 years ago, long before the companies rose to such size and prominence, and its limit, $2.25 billion for each, has become a tiny fraction of the companies' overall debt.

Some analysts have begun to propose that the Fed also permit the two companies to borrow from it, as Wall Street investment banks began doing after the rescue of Bear Stearns. But there is no indication that the Fed is contemplating such a move.

On Thursday, the rapid sell-off of shares of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac came after a former central banker made comments that the companies might not be solvent, and an analyst at UBS issued a report critical of Freddie Mac.

The turmoil also shook the debt of the companies, with one main measure indicating that their cost of borrowing has risen to the highest level since mid-March, when the government rescued Bear Stearns. Throughout the day, senior officials sought to reassure the markets about the financial health of Fannie and Freddie.

Later in the afternoon, James Lockhart, the regulator who oversees the two companies, issued a statement that his agency was carefully watching the companies' "credit and capital positions" and said that they were adequate to get through the current turmoil.

Fannie Mae issued a statement saying that it remained financially strong.

"Our company has raised more than $14 billion in capital since November 2007, including $7.4 billion most recently in May," the company said. "As our regulator has stated, and has reiterated in public statements this week, we are adequately capitalized."

Sharon McHale, vice president for public relations at Freddie Mac, said: "Our regulator has emphasized that we have continued to maintain the highest capital rating, and we are in the market every day. We'll continue to do so."

Shares of Freddie Mac plunged more than 30 percent and Fannie Mae's more than 20 percent in the first hour of trading on Thursday. By the close of trading, Fannie shares had fallen nearly 14 percent, and Freddie shares had dropped 22 percent. It was the second straight day of declines for the companies.

While their stocks trade on the New York Stock Exchange, Congress created the two companies to promote housing, and the marketplace has long come to believe that they would be bailed out should they become insolvent. They hold a far lower level of capital than banks do. In recent years, they have both suffered from accounting scandals and management shake-ups.

Neither Paulson nor Bernanke, at the hearing on Thursday, would answer a question about whether Congress needs to give the regulators more tools to deal with the possible insolvency at either company.

"I don't think we should be speculating or talking about what-if's with any particular institutions, and so with Fannie or Freddie, what I'm emphasizing is that the tool that I want is the reform and the reform legislation that would inject confidence into the marketplace," Paulson said, referring to a measure that would revamp the oversight of the companies.

The problems of the two companies spilled onto the campaign trail on Thursday when Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, said he supported federal intervention to save Fannie or Freddie from collapsing.

"Those institutions, Fannie and Freddie, have been responsible for millions of Americans to be able to own their own homes, and they will not fail, we will not allow them to fail," McCain said during a stop at the Senate Coney Island Restaurant in Livonia, Michigan. "They are vital to Americans' ability to own their own homes. And we will do what's necessary to make sure that they continue that function."

Jason Furman, the economic policy director for the Democratic presidential campaign of Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, said that Obama "believes the Bush administration's willful neglect of warning signs in housing, in financial markets and in the job market, have compromised the nation's housing finance system."

"The challenges facing Fannie and Freddie are part of the broader weakness in our economy," Mr. Furman said.

Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York and chairman of the Joint Economic Committee, said that the markets should rest assured that the mortgage giants have a "federal lifeline" and would not be allowed to fail - though he said he thought a government rescue would not be needed and should be a last resort.
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby HengHeng » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:46 am

Issue is taking over the debt obligation would cost dollar to deflate lower while not doing anything would kill off the whole economy but at least it has a bottom the issue is people are unwilling to realise the pain when they "spent" relentlessly on future money.

Well now the american people are paying for what i call future debt obligations by those senseless spendings done by both bush adminstrations. By not paying taxes are simply not the way and to vote for such a president the americans deserve every single bit of what they are suffering now.

Anyway , singapore though is not doing that but similiar to our temasek and GCI they are borrowing money from its people , once losing the grip of its people's votes ( i forsee in the near future ) , it prompts people to look into what these people(our garmen) are doing and we might see the crumbling of an economy as people ask questions without offering solutions. Anyway people are always good in complaining and doing nothing.
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby kennynah » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:50 am

bottom line.... govt already said they will guarantee debt obligations by fannie and freddie.... they are estimated to have lost some $11bil....so be it... mkt will throw their shares.. that's all that will happen... these 2 institutions will survive and business as usual...

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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby HengHeng » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:00 am

issue is no one is buying their treasury bonds .. only got 26 billion as mention yesterday in CNBC .. frankly speaking not impressive ..

coz it means they need to print more money thus increasing the chances of making dollar its intrinsic value of 0
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby kennynah » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:01 am

definitely...print money...or out from tax coffers...whichever the case, US economy will suffer...as a result..
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby millionairemind » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:48 pm

I am a firm believer that the charts tells the story BEST way before it shows up in the FUNDAMENTALS.. that is Y I combine FA/TA in my investment philosophy.

I went back to review the chart for Freddie...You can draw your own conclusions.

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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby millionairemind » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:37 am

Rescue plan for US mortgage giants
By James Politi and Krishna Guha in Washington and Francesco Guerrera in New York

Published: July 13 2008 19:14 | Last updated: July 14 2008 00:34

In a dramatic effort to quell the crisis surrounding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the US government on Sunday night announced that it will seek unlimited authority from Congress to lend money to the troubled mortgage groups and invest in their equity.

The Federal Reserve meanwhile said it would give Fannie and Freddie access to emergency funds on the same terms as banks, “should such lending prove necessary”.

The rescue plan, announced by Treasury secretary Hank Paulson, came after a weekend of crisis talks involving Mr Paulson, Fed chairman Ben Bernanke, and New York Fed chief Tim Geithner.

It goes further than many market participants expected. In effect the government is seeking full discretion to inject both debt and equity into Fannie and Freddie, and take them over if necessary.

The Fed will act as a bridge by providing a backstop source of emergency finance in the interim while Congress passes the required legislation.

The extent of the move reflects Washington’s fears that failure to bolster Fannie and Freddie could deepen financial turmoil, undermining domestic and foreign investors’ fragile confidence in US capital markets and the dollar. “We need to stabilise the current situation,” a senior Treasury official said on Sunday night.

In a statement released on Sunday before the start of trading in Asia – where central banks are among the biggest holders of Fannie and Freddie debt – Mr Paulson said the two enterprises, which own or guarantee more than $5,300bn in US mortgages, “play a central role in our housing finance system and must continue to do so in their current form”.

Mr Paulson outlined a three-pronged strategy to resolve the crisis at Fannie and Freddie, whose shares have collapsed over concerns about their potential losses on mortgage holdings.

Under the plan, the Treasury will be authorised to increase its existing $2.25bn lines of credit to Fannie and Freddie. In addition, the Treasury will have temporary authority to purchase equity in either of the two entities if needed. Support will be at the discretion of the Treasury secretary. “Use of either the line of credit or the equity investment would carry terms and conditions necessary to protect the taxpayer,” Mr Paulson said.

The third part of the plan allows Fannie and Freddie to borrow from the Fed’s “discount window” through which it extends emergency finance in return for collateral. The Fed will also be granted a consultative role in shaping the future regulatory framework for Fannie and Freddie.

A senior Treasury official said Mr Paulson had spoken to all key figures in Congress and was confident that the authorising legislation would be inserted into the housing bill making its way through Congress and swiftly approved.

The market will get the chance to express its views on Paulson plan today when Freddie begins marketing $3bn in short-term debt. Wall Street bankers said Treasury officials had been in touch with big investment and commercial banks to ensure they were still considering placing bids for the bond sale.
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Re: Freddie Mac FRE & Fannie Mae FNM

Postby LenaHuat » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:11 am

It goes further than many market participants expected. In effect the government is seeking full discretion to inject both debt and equity into Fannie and Freddie, and take them over if necessary.

Beaten down investments banks and regional banks might be left to the mercies of the market. Time is running out for them to get their acts together, most likely without the US govt's support.
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